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The amount of time and effort that was spent on this topic,wish it was spent on improvement on the game called atwar. Seems like its fate is to die slowly. Wish you guys all the best.

Written by Nanoknight, 17.04.2025 at 04:04

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Are you programmer? If you are, then help Dave implement AI in game if is it that simple.

Doesn't matter if one is a programmer, the owner is responsible for the handling of whatever software, and also as the owner chooses or not to hire/trust someone to work on whatever, atWar isn't some open source project where "hur dur if you want it, just do it yourself" is a valid counter-argument.

Based on what Dave has said, and knowing about web development history, I can believe there is less effort in starting from scratch, for an improved experience.
Not entirely related, but look at what just happened to 4chan, they were using very unsafe, old libraries and subsequently, finally got "nuked"

I am just saying that its not easy as people think.. They see 50minute tutorial on youtube and they think they can became programmers in 1h or they can create a game with 1h youtube video.. Dave said many times that code of this game is whole mess. If he created that mess, he could've implement new features much easier, but changing someone else's code is just pain in ass..

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Are you programmer? If you are, then help Dave implement AI in game if is it that simple.

Doesn't matter if one is a programmer, the owner is responsible for the handling of whatever software, and also as the owner chooses or not to hire/trust someone to work on whatever, atWar isn't some open source project where "hur dur if you want it, just do it yourself" is a valid counter-argument.

Based on what Dave has said, and knowing about web development history, I can believe there is less effort in starting from scratch, for an improved experience.
Not entirely related, but look at what just happened to 4chan, they were using very unsafe, old libraries and subsequently, finally got "nuked"

Im proud of you kid

Make more vids you cunts they getting betterrrr

You did Waffel dirty lol

Written by clovis1122, 16.04.2025 at 12:00

Bro thats puchao, probably the only player I have banned from my games and I have on blacklist.
What do you want me to say? He always trolled, always will, just dont allow him to play the maps, if everyone bann him from their games he won't ruin anything anymore (tho still not a good reason to perma bann or IP bann or sorta from atwar in general).

Written by 77TENGRI99, 16.04.2025 at 17:24

Only made for fani and lauf
(i been to some dc servers like this )

I don't always agree with you Tengri but at least you make way better meme videos

(this one is kinda accurate tbh)

Written by Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 16:24

Dave, I understand your position and the frustration over what happened, but I hope you'll reconsider. While Lion made a poor decision years ago, I believe the community is better with him than without. It's not worth dwelling indefinitely on a single, admittedly stupid mistake—especially one made so long ago. I don't know exactly what was lost on Discord, but I find it hard to believe any of the content was so vital that it warrants a permanent ban. And with all due respect, if it was truly vital, Discord might not have been the best place to store it.

I recall you mentioning a background in criminal justice buried in the forums of that other thread. Given that, I imagine you'd agree that while some actions can't be undone, that doesn't mean a person is beyond redemption. What matters is whether they're willing to make things right and contribute positively going forward. From what I've seen, Lion was one of the few who actively supported others, helped newcomers, and added real value to the community. I genuinely believe his return would have a more positive impact than the status quo.

Dave, I believe that if you do care for Atwar, a good way to have the community stay healthy is to have people like Lion be a part of it.

I hear you, I do.

Written by Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 16:24

It might even get the more noisy people to stop spamming you to unban truly troublesome people for maybe an afternoon

This though.... the more people spam me the less I want to do it. I don't want anything I do to be perceived as rewarding their bad behavior!

Only made for fani and lauf
(i been to some dc servers like this )

Written by Dave, 16.04.2025 at 14:29

Written by Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 12:23

He was always kind and is the only banned player that can justifiably be unbanned. He was kind enough to show me a ton of tricks in atwar when I was still learning, and overall, he was a great person to play scens with every time I interacted with him. I don't know the full drama other than him deleting a Discord server, but I don't think a permanent ban is justified. It's genuinely been years, and he's almost certainly the type to not be a repeat offender or toxic.

Lion is likely the only player the scenario community cares about.

PS: Don't ban me, I don't care about comp players drama, or really atwar forums in general.

Lion apologized which I appreciated, but that's not enough. He needs to make us whole. I said he could come back if he restored the content he deleted from Discord. Of course that's impossible since there was no backup (and he should have thought about this before he did it!)

So here we are, he apologized but we still haven't been made whole. Unless he can think of some other way to compensate us for the damage he caused, he's never coming back.

I would just give up hope of ever seeing your friend Lion on here again.

Dave, I understand your position and the frustration over what happened, but I hope you'll reconsider. While Lion made a poor decision years ago, I believe the community is better with him than without. It's not worth dwelling indefinitely on a single, admittedly stupid mistake—especially one made so long ago. I don't know exactly what was lost on Discord, but I find it hard to believe any of the content was so vital that it warrants a permanent ban. And with all due respect, if it was truly vital, Discord might not have been the best place to store it.

I recall you mentioning a background in criminal justice buried in the forums of that other thread. Given that, I imagine you'd agree that while some actions can't be undone, that doesn't mean a person is beyond redemption. What matters is whether they're willing to make things right and contribute positively going forward. From what I've seen, Lion was one of the few who actively supported others, helped newcomers, and added real value to the community. I genuinely believe his return would have a more positive impact than the status quo.

Dave, I believe that if you do care for Atwar, a good way to have the community stay healthy is to have people like Lion be a part of it.


It might even get the more noisy people to stop spamming you to unban truly troublesome people for maybe an afternoon

It's not my fight to fight, so this will probably be my last contribution but I would like to just say that nobody here (except for some retards you know who...) wants to see atwar die, we all like atwar and want to see it very active. We care a lot about this game and so we have a lot of emotions which has been misguided (refer to my previous posts). I also wish to add that if the people are given stuff they will give back. I hope everyone who has the chance to contact dave about being unbanned does in fact do that. If the game seems some rise in clan war activity i think ill finally release my collection of videos and release some tutorials, I promise that i am very enthusiastic about the tutorials and helping the game just as many others are, I just hope some chances are given and if you want to discuss this dave I don't mind helping anywhere if it means some more of my friends and the community being helped, and i understand youre busy, however most people here are and they still log on, even the banned friends that i'd like to see come back still enjoy this game and so i hope this reaches the right place

Written by Kaska, 16.04.2025 at 14:55

Metyu good dog lol

Casca

Good work, Dave, you made a huge, meaningful step forward.

Now it's time to ban Croat, or unban others, or preferably both, but pick something.

Written by dave is fat, 16.04.2025 at 14:56

Pro tip to dave

kill urself

I'm leaving this one here just so everyone can see the level of intelligent argument we have to deal with

Predictable outcome ngl

Written by Grand Inquisitor, 16.04.2025 at 14:59

Written by Kaska, 16.04.2025 at 14:55

Metyu good dog lol

Insults like this, insta ban, this is worse then calling somebody gay

Rip our dearest french, but like Swans would say here, "c'est la vie!", there's a strict policy about toxicity so F

Written by Dave, 16.04.2025 at 14:24

Okay, I've let this go on long enough.

There is apparently an alternate reality existing within the AW community built on lies and misunderstandings, and I'm blaming Waffel for spreading it. It's predictable, every time I tell him "here are the facts, X, Y, and Z", he twists it to mean the opposite and throws it back with a bunch of lies and other bullshit. atWar has enough problems already, we really don't need a guy like that "poisoning the well" deliberately. I'm pretty sure he's doing it just for the sake of the drama. He cannot possibly be serious or believe his own BS.

So I've gone ahead and deleted and device-banned Waffel's alt. Since his main acc had an existing ban in place, he should not have been here posting on an alt, and I should not have allowed him to do it for so long. I'm going to follow AW policy on this one moving forward.

For those of you who may believe Waffel's warped reality and/or don't like what I'm doing, I invite you to delete your accounts yourselves. Here's how to do it:

1) go to your user profile, click Edit Profile:



2) scroll to the bottom and click "Delete Account":



If anyone else wants to actually discuss this topic with me please feel free to do so -- as long as you keep it respectful and factual you can disagree with me all you want. I don't ban people over differences of opinion. I will however ban rude/disrespectful behavior, and especially any significant efforts to lie to the AW community as was the case here.

Thank you a lot, will use those steps briefly

Written by Kaska, 16.04.2025 at 14:55

Metyu good dog lol

Insults like this, insta ban, this is worse then calling somebody gay

Written by Santiii, 16.04.2025 at 14:45

Despite me not agreeing with you on many facts, I would never delete my account because of an issue like this, doesnt matter how active or inactive i am. I love atWar and its community and its the reason some of us are angry (and rude aswell) but that is because we care about the game

We all love AW, but the problem remains the same as I pointed out in my previous post: lack of content, improvements, quality of gameplay, and of course, a dying community. Very little time is invested in developing meaningful changes, and instead, the players gets punished (what!?)

Pro tip to dave

kill urself

Metyu good dog lol

Written by Dave, 16.04.2025 at 14:24

Okay, I've let this go on long enough.

There is apparently an alternate reality existing within the AW community built on lies and misunderstandings, and I'm blaming Waffel for spreading it. It's predictable, every time I tell him "here are the facts, X, Y, and Z", he twists it to mean the opposite and throws it back with a bunch of lies and other bullshit. atWar has enough problems already, we really don't need a guy like that "poisoning the well" deliberately. I'm pretty sure he's doing it just for the sake of the drama. He cannot possibly be serious or believe his own BS.

So I've gone ahead and deleted and device-banned Waffel's alt. Since his main acc had an existing ban in place, he should not have been here posting on an alt, and I should not have allowed him to do it for so long. I'm going to follow AW policy on this one moving forward.

For those of you who may believe Waffel's warped reality and/or don't like what I'm doing, I invite you to delete your accounts yourselves. Here's how to do it:

1) go to your user profile, click Edit Profile:



2) scroll to the bottom and click "Delete Account":



If anyone else wants to actually discuss this topic with me please feel free to do so -- as long as you keep it respectful and factual you can disagree with me all you want. I don't ban people over differences of opinion. I will however ban rude/disrespectful behavior, and especially any significant efforts to lie to the AW community as was the case here.

Despite me not agreeing with you on many facts, I would never delete my account because of an issue like this, doesnt matter how active or inactive i am. I love atWar and its community and its the reason some of us are angry (and rude aswell) but that is because we care about the game

Written by tempthesavior, 16.04.2025 at 14:25

HE DID NOTHING WRONG

dude you got a ban from Brianwl of all people, and he never bans anybody. You have nothing to say. Go back to your ban

Written by Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 13:54

I don't know why it would be necessary, but I for one, would wholeheartedly support trading IHY for Lion.

Agree on this

Written by Dave, 16.04.2025 at 14:29

Lion apologized which I appreciated, but that's not enough. He needs to make us whole. I said he could come back if he restored the content he deleted from Discord. Of course that's impossible since there was no backup (and he should have thought about this before he did it!)

So here we are, he apologized but we still haven't been made whole. Unless he can think of some other way to compensate us for the damage he caused, he's never coming back.

I would just give up hope of ever seeing your friend Lion on here again.

TRUE AMERICAN THINKING DAVE
WE SHOULD PUT 600% TARIFFS ON LION AND MAKE HIM PAY YOU TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS

Written by Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 12:23

He was always kind and is the only banned player that can justifiably be unbanned. He was kind enough to show me a ton of tricks in atwar when I was still learning, and overall, he was a great person to play scens with every time I interacted with him. I don't know the full drama other than him deleting a Discord server, but I don't think a permanent ban is justified. It's genuinely been years, and he's almost certainly the type to not be a repeat offender or toxic.

Lion is likely the only player the scenario community cares about.

PS: Don't ban me, I don't care about comp players drama, or really atwar forums in general.

Lion apologized which I appreciated, but that's not enough. He needs to make us whole. I said he could come back if he restored the content he deleted from Discord. Of course that's impossible since there was no backup (and he should have thought about this before he did it!)

So here we are, he apologized but we still haven't been made whole. Unless he can think of some other way to compensate us for the damage he caused, he's never coming back.

I would just give up hope of ever seeing your friend Lion on here again.

Written by Dave, 16.04.2025 at 14:24

Don't listen to waffel, you did nothing wrong dave

This video resurrected me from the depths of my own prison to come gaze upon these strange lands that I once called home.

HE DID NOTHING WRONG