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09.06.2015 - 06:45
The idea is to have a minimum number of games won as well as reaching the set SP value in order to attain different rank levels. This will help restore integrity and meaning in ranks, meaning ranks provide a more accurate reflection on a players skill level.

At the moment there is too many scenario and world 50k players ranking up to quick and not having the appropriate skill level to reflect their rank. This idea would go some way to help resolve this.
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09.06.2015 - 06:53
Do you have an idea about the number of games needed to get to certain levels? Cause I don't know what standard are you gonna follow for that
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09.06.2015 - 07:01
Written by RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 06:53

Do you have an idea about the number of games needed to get to certain levels?

No I don't, I am sure a reasonable metric could be devised however.
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09.06.2015 - 07:05
Written by Sun Tsu, 09.06.2015 at 06:45

The idea is to have a minimum number of games won as well as reaching the set SP value in order to attain different rank levels. This will help restore integrity and meaning in ranks, meaning ranks provide a more accurate reflection on a players skill level.

At the moment there is too many scenario and world 50k players ranking up to quick and not having the appropriate skill level to reflect their rank. This idea would go some way to help resolve this.

" scenario and world 50k players ranking up to quick and not having the appropriate skill level to reflect their rank" LOL since when world 50k doesnt require skill while knowing standard expansions in ALWAYS SAME map does require skill?
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09.06.2015 - 07:06
Atwar isnt Europe 10k extra dear sun tsu get ur facts straight
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09.06.2015 - 07:09
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:06

Atwar isnt Europe 10k extra dear sun tsu get ur facts straight


When did I say it was?
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09.06.2015 - 07:10
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:05


" scenario and world 50k players ranking up to quick and not having the appropriate skill level to reflect their rank" LOL since when world 50k doesnt require skill while knowing standard expansions in ALWAYS SAME map does require skill?


The SP earned in scenarios and 50k games games is completely unbalanced when compared to games with lower funding, which primarly involve spamming units. For example, I (Sun) have played and won more games than you, yet you are a higher rank.
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09.06.2015 - 07:12
Written by The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 07:10

Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:05

Written by Sun Tsu, 09.06.2015 at 06:45

The idea is to have a minimum number of games won as well as reaching the set SP value in order to attain different rank levels. This will help restore integrity and meaning in ranks, meaning ranks provide a more accurate reflection on a players skill level.

At the moment there is too many scenario and world 50k players ranking up to quick and not having the appropriate skill level to reflect their rank. This idea would go some way to help resolve this.

" scenario and world 50k players ranking up to quick and not having the appropriate skill level to reflect their rank" LOL since when world 50k doesnt require skill while knowing standard expansions in ALWAYS SAME map does require skill?


The SP earned in scenarios and 50k games games is completely unbalanced when compared to games with lower funding.

i think u wrong in world 50k u dont earn much sp via allyfagging but if u fight whole map and win alone and devote there 2hours or even 3 i think u deserve 3k or 4k sp.Also x2 sp in clan wars is still there?
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09.06.2015 - 07:14
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:12


i think u wrong in world 50k u dont earn much sp via allyfagging but if u fight whole map and win alone and devote there 2hours or even 3 i think u deserve 3k or 4k sp.Also x2 sp in clan wars is still there?


I completely agree you deserve the SP, i never said you don't.
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09.06.2015 - 07:38
Written by The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 07:14

Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:12


i think u wrong in world 50k u dont earn much sp via allyfagging but if u fight whole map and win alone and devote there 2hours or even 3 i think u deserve 3k or 4k sp.Also x2 sp in clan wars is still there?


I completely agree you deserve the SP, i never said you don't.

so we agree after all
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09.06.2015 - 07:50
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:38


so we agree after all


Your posts have no relevance to the actual thread apart from to defend why players deserve SP in big money games. I am not sure if you agree or not, that a minimum number of games should be won before ascertaining a higher rank level because no where in your post's does it mention this.
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09.06.2015 - 07:51
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:38


Chill the fuck up. I know guys that only play 50k world games. Once you put them in a low fund game (10k, 5k or 3k), they're completely lost. Why? Cuase they don't have the same money management, they've learned to spam, that's all. In order to be skillful you must be able to handle all different circumstances.

Eu+ 10k 3 vs 3 is not only about expansions, also money management. Anyway, this isn't the only playable map in case you didn't know.
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09.06.2015 - 07:52
Written by RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 07:51

Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:38


Chill the fuck up. I know guys that only play 50k world games. Once you put them in a low fund game (10k, 5k or 3k), they're completely lost. Why? Cuase they don't have the same money management, they've learned to spam, that's all. In order to be skillful you must be able to handle all different circumstances.


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09.06.2015 - 07:54
Written by RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 07:51

Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:38


Chill the fuck up. I know guys that only play 50k world games. Once you put them in a low fund game (10k, 5k or 3k), they're completely lost. Why? Cuase they don't have the same money management, they've learned to spam, that's all. In order to be skillful you must be able to handle all different circumstances.

Eu+ 10k 3 vs 3 is not only about expansions, also money management. Anyway, this isn't the only playable map in case you didn't know.

world 50k requires money managment...
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09.06.2015 - 07:57
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:54

Written by RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 07:51

Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:38


Chill the fuck up. I know guys that only play 50k world games. Once you put them in a low fund game (10k, 5k or 3k), they're completely lost. Why? Cuase they don't have the same money management, they've learned to spam, that's all. In order to be skillful you must be able to handle all different circumstances.

Eu+ 10k 3 vs 3 is not only about expansions, also money management. Anyway, this isn't the only playable map in case you didn't know.

world 50k requires money managment...

You are telling me World 50k has the same level of money management as Africa 3k? Please stop posting ridiculous arguments.
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09.06.2015 - 07:59
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:54

world 50k requires money managment...

I've played it. It doesn't. At least, not as much as low fund games. The first turns, all you gotta do is spam offensive units. Once you're out of money, you have enough land to have a good income to keep spamming units. Yeah, you might need some strategy, speed to handle all your stacks and some knowledge, but nothing else. And the extense map makes fights less usual as in Eu maps, where everyone is constanly attacking or being attacked, where skills can be much more decisive. Now, compare this:

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09.06.2015 - 08:02
Written by RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 07:59

Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:54

world 50k requires money managment...

I've played it. It doesn't. At least, not as much as low fund games. The first turns, all you gotta do is spam offensive units. Once you're out of money, you have enough land to have a good income to keep spamming units. Yeah, you might need some strategy, speed to handle all your stacks and some knowledge, but nothing else. And the extense map makes fights less usual as in Eu maps, where everyone is constanly attacking or being attacked, where skills can be much more decisive. Now, compare this:



raul trust me it does i have used many times EVERYTHING in 50k when figthing against 3 or 4 like late attacks and even militia gained in cities.If u surrounded by 3 and u ally none u dont have lands.... Its all up to ur skill level.
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09.06.2015 - 08:04
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 08:02


raul trust me it does i have used many times EVERYTHING in 50k when figthing against 3 or 4 like late attacks and even militia gained in cities.If u surrounded by 3 and u ally none u dont have lands.... Its all up to ur skill level.

you miss the point completley
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09.06.2015 - 08:05
Written by Sun Tsu, 09.06.2015 at 06:45


No, just no. If we did this it would ultimately be just as easy to farm ranks. Games played means nothing, look at the world 50k, and the SP FARM 1v1 player.
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09.06.2015 - 08:06
Written by Google, 09.06.2015 at 08:05

Written by Sun Tsu, 09.06.2015 at 06:45


No, just no. If we did this it would ultimately be just as easy to farm ranks. Games played means nothing, look at the world 50k, and the SP FARM 1v1 player.

I am referring to games WON not games played, combined with reaching SP levels.. Exploiting the system for the sole purpose of gaining SP and rank is already prohibited.
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09.06.2015 - 08:07
Written by The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 08:06

Written by Google, 09.06.2015 at 08:05

Written by Sun Tsu, 09.06.2015 at 06:45


No, just no. If we did this it would ultimately be just as easy to farm ranks. Games played means nothing, look at the world 50k, and the SP FARM 1v1 player.

I am referring to games won not games played, combined with reaching SP levels..

Same then, World 50k will win less then 1v1ers.
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09.06.2015 - 08:09
Written by Google, 09.06.2015 at 08:07

Written by The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 08:06

Written by Google, 09.06.2015 at 08:05

Written by Sun Tsu, 09.06.2015 at 06:45


No, just no. If we did this it would ultimately be just as easy to farm ranks. Games played means nothing, look at the world 50k, and the SP FARM 1v1 player.

I am referring to games won not games played, combined with reaching SP levels..

Same then, World 50k will win less then 1v1ers.

Yes and the balance will be that world 50k players will earn more SP as a result as there is more potential to earn higher levels of SP as obviously you can produce a lot more units in 50k games.
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09.06.2015 - 08:09
Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 08:02

raul trust me it does i have used many times EVERYTHING in 50k when figthing against 3 or 4 like late attacks and even militia gained in cities.If u surrounded by 3 and u ally none u dont have lands.... Its all up to ur skill level.

So? That can happen as well in Eu maps, Africa maps, America maps, etc. But what does that have to be with our topic? As Sun says...
Written by The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 08:04

you miss the point completley


Overall you need less money management. That's my point. And I think that's irrefutable.
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09.06.2015 - 08:11
Written by Google, 09.06.2015 at 08:07

Same then, World 50k will win less then 1v1ers.

50k will earn more sp while 1 vs 1ers will win more games cause they're faster
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09.06.2015 - 08:21
I can already see people farming wins with this addition. Though I agree that ranks need meaning again I do not think this is the way.
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09.06.2015 - 08:38
Written by Meester, 09.06.2015 at 08:21

I can already see people farming wins with this addition. Though I agree that ranks need meaning again I do not think this is the way.

It wouldn't matter if they only farm wins since a minimum amount of both wins and sp are required.
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09.06.2015 - 08:46
Written by Meester, 09.06.2015 at 08:21

I can already see people farming wins with this addition. Though I agree that ranks need meaning again I do not think this is the way.

i honestly cannot think of any other way of acheiving the said objective. In my opinion any system will be prone to some type of exploitation and surely any player caught farming would be punished accordingly. Please bear in mind the suggestion is to include both SP level and number of games won in order to acheive a higher rank.
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09.06.2015 - 08:48
World 50k IS NOT farming x2 sp in CWs IS though
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09.06.2015 - 08:56
Written by Sun Tsu, 09.06.2015 at 08:46

Written by Meester, 09.06.2015 at 08:21

I can already see people farming wins with this addition. Though I agree that ranks need meaning again I do not think this is the way.

i honestly cannot think of any other way of acheiving the said objective. In my opinion any system will be prone to some type of exploitation and surely any player caught farming would be punished accordingly. Please bear in mind the suggestion is to include both SP level and number of games won in order to acheive a higher rank.


I am aware of that however right now with your ranking up suggestion SP isn't the problem, number of games won is. Players can earn SP through any means now and simply farm the wins alone with a friend or just playing quick scenarios like King of the Hill, etc. Unlike SP farming(already hard to detect) win farming is not common and even harder to detect since 1v1s are very common therefore punishing them would be extremely difficult, let alone find them.
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09.06.2015 - 09:00
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Written by RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 07:51

Written by Nations, 09.06.2015 at 07:38


Chill the fuck up. I know guys that only play 50k world games. Once you put them in a low fund game (10k, 5k or 3k), they're completely lost. Why? Cuase they don't have the same money management, they've learned to spam, that's all. In order to be skillful you must be able to handle all different circumstances.

Eu+ 10k 3 vs 3 is not only about expansions, also money management. Anyway, this isn't the only playable map in case you didn't know.

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