Make Infantry Units pure defensive Units

As they should be, i am bored to death most games ppl just spam infantry stacks and whoever gets bigger stacks wins, so boring, no using of specialized units cause infantry is to op for cost, 99 percentage of wins and games evolve around infantry, give other units chance, we almost can removeother units on 90 percent of games cause no one needs them

No support.Grow your empire,get money and shit the hell out of it.Also you could just defend....

The only reason I would support this is to watch how butthurt all the 3v3 fags get over it

2 attack 7 def would be perfect, just like in wwii

Written by Evic, 30.10.2015 at 16:06

2 attack 7 def would be perfect, just like in wwii

Would ruin Imperialist.

3 attack 7 defense though, seems interesting and would encourage players to use all their units more effective and not just spam one type of unit.

Anyway, this suggestion is unlikely to happen.

1 attack 25 defense, 10 HP range 10, cost 25. bonus of +100 against tanks on pd. ok?

Written by Your Laki, 30.10.2015 at 17:59

1 attack 25 defense, 10 HP range 10, cost 25. bonus of +100 against tanks on pd. ok?

seems a little underpowered, buff please

In most war infantry is the most basic troop

Written by Evic, 30.10.2015 at 16:06

2 attack 7 def would be perfect, just like in wwii

You mean WWI?

In any case, I don't agree with this proposed change, but having a (default-map-like) custom map with 2 attack 7 defence infantries instead of the default unit would be interesting.

Written by International, 31.10.2015 at 21:54

You mean WWI?

In any case, I don't agree with this proposed change, but having a (default-map-like) custom map with 2 attack 7 defence infantries instead of the default unit would be interesting.

im guessing you are talking about aetius wwi, which has regular stats infantry (4/6), you probably confused infantry with conscripts

I was thinking of changing PD to have inf 3/7 with +1 in cities so that the strategy itself becomes a more defense based strategy. taking stuff from neutrals is still doable, but harder when you're playing opponents... In turn attacking a pd player would be really tough

Written by Dbacks, 01.11.2015 at 00:40

I was thinking of changing PD to have inf 3/7 with +1 in cities so that the strategy itself becomes a more defense based strategy. taking stuff from neutrals is still doable, but harder when you're playing opponents... In turn attacking a pd player would be really tough

Sounds like a great idea, makes the strategy suit the name.

Written by Viruslegion, 30.10.2015 at 16:04

The only reason I would support this is to watch how butthurt all the 3v3 fags get over it

Please, I will duel you with GW/DS/RA/Any non inf strat/ any day of the week and then observe how you will explain it away with some flimsy excuse without actually admitting that 3v3 players have more skill.

Written by Dbacks, 01.11.2015 at 00:40

I was thinking of changing PD to have inf 3/7 with +1 in cities so that the strategy itself becomes a more defense based strategy. taking stuff from neutrals is still doable, but harder when you're playing opponents... In turn attacking a pd player would be really tough

Having PD infantry be 3/7 with +1 is going to mean the death of PD as a viable strategy, except in close quarters combat. Trying to expand well with 3 attack units leaves the player massively vulnerable to a rush, and not trying to expand well means being in big trouble come turn 5.

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 01:41

Written by Viruslegion, 30.10.2015 at 16:04

The only reason I would support this is to watch how butthurt all the 3v3 fags get over it

Please, I will duel you with GW/DS/RA/Any non inf strat/ any day of the week and then observe how you will explain it away with some flimsy excuse without actually admitting that 3v3 players have more skill.

Iron Fist Iceland?

(yes, this is a joke)

Written by Evic, 31.10.2015 at 22:07

Written by International, 31.10.2015 at 21:54

You mean WWI?

In any case, I don't agree with this proposed change, but having a (default-map-like) custom map with 2 attack 7 defence infantries instead of the default unit would be interesting.

im guessing you are talking about aetius wwi, which has regular stats infantry (4/6), you probably confused infantry with conscripts

Oh. I thought you were talking about RL history. RL WWI infantry defence was notorious, and a 3/7 infantry simulates that well.

Sorry since that wasn't what you meant.

What about Pyrrhus' Napoleon? Inf is normal but using inf without any supporting unit like cannons and skirmishers = ded

I'd support 3/6 infantry (-1 attack from now) but they get +1 attack against militia and infantry. This means all units' defense except militia and infantry are boosted against infantry.

I don't see why this is needed though, gameplay is quite nice right now.

Please dont do this

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 01:41

Written by Viruslegion, 30.10.2015 at 16:04

The only reason I would support this is to watch how butthurt all the 3v3 fags get over it

Please, I will duel you with GW/DS/RA/Any non inf strat/ any day of the week and then observe how you will explain it away with some flimsy excuse without actually admitting that 3v3 players have more skill.

wow, you mean you'll duel me on the only map you ever play while using the same memorized moves you use every time, sounds like a blast, really, but I'll pass

Written by Viruslegion, 01.11.2015 at 12:28

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 01:41

Written by Viruslegion, 30.10.2015 at 16:04

The only reason I would support this is to watch how butthurt all the 3v3 fags get over it

Please, I will duel you with GW/DS/RA/Any non inf strat/ any day of the week and then observe how you will explain it away with some flimsy excuse without actually admitting that 3v3 players have more skill.

wow, you mean you'll duel me on the only map you ever play while using the same memorized moves you use every time, sounds like a blast, really, but I'll pass

Ha any map that isn't rigged for you to win, I will gladly duel you on. World map, Asia, Americas, even scenarios and custom farm maps like ancient. And there goes the flimsy excuse I predicted.
You think I'm really scared shitless to duel you outside of europe or something?


ALSO


Isn't the strategy on ALL scenarios and custom maps just memorization too? Don't try and argue otherwise on this.
In WW1, each country has a specific and memorized best game play plan. Same for every scenarios ever. Vietnam, Japan, etc... In ancient, there are best picks with memorized expansions and memorized shortcuts and memorized unit combinations to build. GAME OF THRONES IS MEMORIZING IN THE SAME ASPECT AS ANCIENT.

HOW CAN PEOPLE SERIOUSLY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE TELL ME 3v3 EUROPE IS MEMORIZATION SO IT IS BAD WHEN IT IS THE SAME SHIT WITH ALL THE MAP???


I'm sick and tired of this stupid attitude you people have. Grow out of it.

Agree with tact on -1 attack for infantry will solve the problem and force people to use tanks more often.

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 12:36

Written by Viruslegion, 01.11.2015 at 12:28

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 01:41

Written by Viruslegion, 30.10.2015 at 16:04

Ha any map that isn't rigged for you to win, I will gladly duel you on. World map, Asia, Americas, even scenarios and custom farm maps like ancient. And there goes the flimsy excuse I predicted.
You think I'm really scared shitless to duel you outside of europe or something?
ALSO
Isn't the strategy on ALL scenarios and custom maps just memorization too? Don't try and argue otherwise on this.
In WW1, each country has a specific and memorized best game play plan. Same for every scenarios ever. Vietnam, Japan, etc... In ancient, there are best picks with memorized expansions and memorized shortcuts and memorized unit combinations to build. GAME OF THRONES IS MEMORIZING IN THE SAME ASPECT AS ANCIENT.
HOW CAN PEOPLE SERIOUSLY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE TELL ME 3v3 EUROPE IS MEMORIZATION SO IT IS BAD WHEN IT IS THE SAME SHIT WITH ALL THE MAP???

I wouldn't imagine you're scared shitless to duel me considering we're on an online game, seriously, someone needs to go out more
I could easily argue otherwise but why waste my time with an autist who thinks 3 v 3s are actually fun?
Also, nice cherry picking the war to end all wars, which absolutely does require almost as memorization as 3 v 3s, feel free to reply again, but I'm done with your dumb ass for today

In all seriousness though, don't change inf just because the one noob op thinks they're unbalanced

Written by Viruslegion, 01.11.2015 at 13:42

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 12:36

Written by Viruslegion, 01.11.2015 at 12:28

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 01:41

Written by Viruslegion, 30.10.2015 at 16:04

Ha any map that isn't rigged for you to win, I will gladly duel you on. World map, Asia, Americas, even scenarios and custom farm maps like ancient. And there goes the flimsy excuse I predicted.
You think I'm really scared shitless to duel you outside of europe or something?
ALSO
Isn't the strategy on ALL scenarios and custom maps just memorization too? Don't try and argue otherwise on this.
In WW1, each country has a specific and memorized best game play plan. Same for every scenarios ever. Vietnam, Japan, etc... In ancient, there are best picks with memorized expansions and memorized shortcuts and memorized unit combinations to build. GAME OF THRONES IS MEMORIZING IN THE SAME ASPECT AS ANCIENT.
HOW CAN PEOPLE SERIOUSLY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE TELL ME 3v3 EUROPE IS MEMORIZATION SO IT IS BAD WHEN IT IS THE SAME SHIT WITH ALL THE MAP???

I wouldn't imagine you're scared shitless to duel me considering we're on an online game, seriously, someone needs to go out more
I could easily argue otherwise but why waste my time with an autist who thinks 3 v 3s are actually fun?
Also, nice cherry picking the war to end all wars, which absolutely does require almost as memorization as 3 v 3s, feel free to reply again, but I'm done with your dumb ass for today

I love how I gave other examples such as game of thrones or Ancient world, vietnam scenarios, medieval japan maps and you just overlooked them all AND CHERRY PICKED from my examples and then try to tell me THAT I'M CHERRY PICKING the War to End all Wars.
Ancient world has standard picks such as macedonia or carthage just like europe. Each of those have specific expansions such as europe.
Same with Game of Thrones or any other map for that matter...

Your argument about 3v3 europe sucking is that it is entirely based off of memorization.

Your entire argument has so many holes it puts swiss cheese to shame. Every scenario/custom map/ have standard strategies and memorized game plans just like 3v3 europe.
To argue that 3v3 is bad and to try and kill it would require that you fall off the high horse you are sitting on too mate.

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 12:36

Isn't the strategy on ALL scenarios and custom maps just memorization too? Don't try and argue otherwise on this.
In WW1, each country has a specific and memorized best game play plan. Same for every scenarios ever. Vietnam, Japan, etc... In ancient, there are best picks with memorized expansions and memorized shortcuts and memorized unit combinations to build. GAME OF THRONES IS MEMORIZING IN THE SAME ASPECT AS ANCIENT.

HOW CAN PEOPLE SERIOUSLY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE TELL ME 3v3 EUROPE IS MEMORIZATION SO IT IS BAD WHEN IT IS THE SAME SHIT WITH ALL THE MAP???


I'm sick and tired of this stupid attitude you people have. Grow out of it.

[im.g]http://pumabydesign001.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/pot-calling-the-kettle-black.jpg?w=529[/img]

I played about 80 scenarios atleast once and about 30 of them 5 times or more.
lets say each scenario has 10 factions (even though its usually more) that means i would have to memorize over 800 factions and how to play them.

instead i simply look at what units the faction has,how much money,income,reinf and i base my strategy and gameplay on that.
no memorizing what so ever. even on my favorite scenario wwi i barely have any memorized moves on how to get perfect play

Written by Evic, 01.11.2015 at 14:05

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 12:36

Isn't the strategy on ALL scenarios and custom maps just memorization too? Don't try and argue otherwise on this.
In WW1, each country has a specific and memorized best game play plan. Same for every scenarios ever. Vietnam, Japan, etc... In ancient, there are best picks with memorized expansions and memorized shortcuts and memorized unit combinations to build. GAME OF THRONES IS MEMORIZING IN THE SAME ASPECT AS ANCIENT.

HOW CAN PEOPLE SERIOUSLY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE TELL ME 3v3 EUROPE IS MEMORIZATION SO IT IS BAD WHEN IT IS THE SAME SHIT WITH ALL THE MAP???


I'm sick and tired of this stupid attitude you people have. Grow out of it.

[im.g]http://pumabydesign001.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/pot-calling-the-kettle-black.jpg?w=529[/img]

I played about 80 scenarios atleast once and about 30 of them 5 times or more.
lets say each scenario has 10 factions (even though its usually more) that means i would have to memorize over 800 factions and how to play them.

instead i simply look at what units the faction has,how much money,income,reinf and i base my strategy and gameplay on that.
no memorizing what so ever. even on my favorite scenario wwi i barely have any memorized moves on how to get perfect play

Compare that to the world map. Over 200 different countries with different money options 3k, 5k , 10k, 25k, 50k
Each money options with countless different strategies and tactics and memorization to do.

How is the world map any different from your scenarios or maps? It isn't, all of it involves memorization even if it is to DIFFERING extents.

Stop trying to glorify the scenarios and custom maps that you all are biased for.

AND YES IM BIASED TOWARDS EUROPE. WE ARE ALL BIASED.

Trying to have this attitude that 3v3 europe is SHIT without Acknowledging the commonality shared between 3v3 EU and the maps YOU like is the most bullshit thing i've ever seen.

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 14:20

Compare that to the world map. Over 200 different countries with different money options 3k, 5k , 10k, 25k, 50k
Each money options with countless different strategies and tactics and memorization to do.

How is the world map any different from your scenarios or maps? It isn't, all of it involves memorization even if it is to DIFFERING extents.

Stop trying to glorify the scenarios and custom maps that you all are biased for.

AND YES IM BIASED TOWARDS EUROPE. WE ARE ALL BIASED.

Trying to have this attitude that 3v3 europe is SHIT without Acknowledging the commonality shared between 3v3 EU and the maps YOU like is the most bullshit thing i've ever seen.

First off i never said 3v3s are shit, dont put words into my mouth!

Second of all, most of 3v3 players dont play world map, thats a fact,also most of games played are 10k with few 5k and 3k.

Its easy to memorize expansions,shortcuts,tricks on a map with 100 cities (im taking a shot in the dark, dunno exactly how many cities it has) when its usually played on same income and same settings

Written by Evic, 01.11.2015 at 14:30

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 14:20

Compare that to the world map. Over 200 different countries with different money options 3k, 5k , 10k, 25k, 50k
Each money options with countless different strategies and tactics and memorization to do.

How is the world map any different from your scenarios or maps? It isn't, all of it involves memorization even if it is to DIFFERING extents.

Stop trying to glorify the scenarios and custom maps that you all are biased for.

AND YES IM BIASED TOWARDS EUROPE. WE ARE ALL BIASED.

Trying to have this attitude that 3v3 europe is SHIT without Acknowledging the commonality shared between 3v3 EU and the maps YOU like is the most bullshit thing i've ever seen.

First off i never said 3v3s are shit, dont put words into my mouth!

Second of all, most of 3v3 players dont play world map, thats a fact,also most of games played are 10k with few 5k and 3k.

Its easy to memorize expansions,shortcuts,tricks on a map with 100 cities (im taking a shot in the dark, dunno exactly how many cities it has) when its usually played on same income and same settings

Most 3v3 players dont play world map?
Did you do that hard hitting data research in your ass?

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 14:32

Most 3v3 players dont play world map?
Did you do that hard hitting data research in your ass?

By world map i ment entire world map, not just small part of it such as EU+ (since you clearly said 3v3 players play on 200+ countries)

Written by Evic, 01.11.2015 at 14:35

Written by ROYAL, 01.11.2015 at 14:32

Most 3v3 players dont play world map?
Did you do that hard hitting data research in your ass?

By world map i ment entire world map, not just small part of it such as EU+ (since you clearly said 3v3 players play on 200+ countries)

Why dont we do some research and find out whether or not this is true. I'm willing to bet that a majority of 3v3 players (Proficient,) play full world map.