New strat idea

Just re-suggesting an old idea of mine with a small adjustment now that there's a new owner and a chance for some changes to the game.

Counter Insurgency


Advanced recon units and extra protection against insurgency.


All units gain:
+2 defence against marines, stealth, militia, submarines, sentry
-1 defence against tanks, destroyers, bombers, infantry
+1 view

Sentry Planes
+5 attack
+20 view range
-230 cost

Infantry
-10 cost

Militia
-1 range

Marines, Submarines, Stealth
-1 attack
+20 cost

Basically sentries are given a new role as a predator drone that is very effective at spotting and killing stealth units.


Edit: If possible, it would be nice to add a global -1 def modifier on marines,submarines,and stealth when attacked by sentries. This wouldn't effect any of the current strategies since sentries have 1 att but it will allow this one to be viable if it is added to the game. You can't really give sentries more than 6 att before they become copypaste sky menace bombers. It just makes sense that stealth units should be weak to a unit that specialize in finding them.

Good idea. Support

Good idea. Support

Utilizes sentry planes, sure sounds good.

I had thought up an Insurgent strategy but it started to look too much like GW as I was making the details. This however is new and fresh

This strat will be straight up trash against lb inf/tank spam or any strat that uses conventional units.

But it will be an interesting strategy that is very good at spotting and killing stealths, slowing down massive militia spam and out maneuvering it.

Time to spam sentries with op range and attack

Good idea
RIP learster MOS

Support x2

This just feels like a GW hard counter that has no purpose elsewhere (it dies against normal units like you said)

Written by LukeTan, 30.12.2018 at 05:58

This just feels like a GW hard counter that has no purpose elsewhere (it dies against normal units like you said)

What purpose does blitz have besides as a cheesey rush strat that dies to everything?

Written by Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2018 at 12:36

What purpose does blitz have besides as a cheesey rush strat that dies to everything?

Blitz was very popular for Center and west Asia countries. You can expand and attain territory from moscow to thiland in 5 turns while Europe East Asia and North America are still busy. Also It was useful for assist players in world games to spam units from Africa to India or Europe and help their allies. But it's not very relevant anymore because boss units became nearly free without any disadvantage to other units thanks to LB and bear in mind Blitz was nerfed. Also regular world games are not as popular and when they are played it's 50K games with less than 10 players.

At Afterwind's era only premiums could host world maps. I think it's time to bring that rule back to make default map relevant again.

Written by Rock Lee, 30.12.2018 at 12:41

Written by Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2018 at 12:36

What purpose does blitz have besides as a cheesey rush strat that dies to everything?

Blitz was very popular for Center and west Asia countries. You can expand and attain territory from moscow to thiland in 5 turns while Europe East Asia and North America are still busy. Also It was useful for assist players in world games to spam units from Africa to India or Europe and help their allies. But it's not very relevant anymore because boss units became nearly free without any disadvantage to other units thanks to LB and bear in mind Blitz was nerfed. Also regular world games are not as popular and when they are played it's 50K games with less than 10 players.

At Afterwind's era only premiums could host world maps. I think it's time to bring that rule back to make default map relevant again.

Written by Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2018 at 13:16

Its a nice idea but i think strat isnt strong enough to be used viably.

Written by Nations, 31.12.2018 at 14:47

Its a nice idea but i think strat isnt strong enough to be used viably.

Is it a coincidence an infamous gw abuser like you would think it isn't viable

It is exceptional!
Not for it's power but for it's creativity and detail. I'd give it a shot!

Written by Witch-Doctor, 02.01.2019 at 16:25

Written by Nations, 31.12.2018 at 14:47

Its a nice idea but i think strat isnt strong enough to be used viably.

Is it a coincidence an infamous gw abuser like you would think it isn't viable

So you think it will stand a chance vs lb or ds? Lb and ds are way more cancerous than gw.

Drone atack you scary

Is the accidental nerf of gw not enough. Now you want to further humiliate it by creating a strat specifically designed to destroy it. I don't get the obsession.This strat is useless against anything that isnt a stealth strat. I would even question it's ability to counter mos. For example an mos player can simply use tanks and infantry to att into it.

Written by Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2018 at 12:36

What purpose does blitz have besides as a cheesey rush strat that dies to everything?

Uh widely(and successfully) used across a variety of duel settings and scenarios for fast rushes. Ironically i see you specifically playing it all the time. What is up with you these days.

>gw still op
>poland shit in cws
>blitz dies to everything
>gw so strong we need a hard counter strat.

Whats next?

>Lb is perfectly fine!
>clovis did a great job as an admin
>Unleashed is a lovely guy.

edit: Levity aside I like the idea of a strat of this nature. But it needs some serious revision. I don't like how specific it's niche is. We need more viability from it before trying to implement it.

Written by Permamuted, 03.01.2019 at 12:40

Is the accidental nerf of gw not enough. Now you want to further humiliate it by creating a strat specifically designed to destroy it. I don't get the obsession.This strat is useless against anything that isnt a stealth strat. I would even question it's ability to counter mos. For example an mos player can simply use tanks and infantry to att into it.

Written by Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2018 at 12:36

What purpose does blitz have besides as a cheesey rush strat that dies to everything?

Uh widely(and successfully) used across a variety of duel settings and scenarios for fast rushes. Ironically i see you specifically playing it all the time. What is up with you these days.

>gw still op
>poland shit in cws
>blitz dies to everything
>gw so strong we need a hard counter strat.

Whats next?

>Lb is perfectly fine!
>clovis did a great job as an admin
>Unleashed is a lovely guy.

edit: Levity aside I like the idea of a strat of this nature. But it needs some serious revision. I don't like how specific it's niche is. We need more viability from it before trying to implement it.

You're forgetting that sentries are stealth and have insane ranges, the amount of cancerous harassment this strat can do is off the chart.

Written by Permamuted, 03.01.2019 at 12:40

Is the accidental nerf of gw not enough. Now you want to further humiliate it by creating a strat specifically designed to destroy it. I don't get the obsession.This strat is useless against anything that isnt a stealth strat. I would even question it's ability to counter mos. For example an mos player can simply use tanks and infantry to att into it.

Written by Witch-Doctor, 30.12.2018 at 12:36

What purpose does blitz have besides as a cheesey rush strat that dies to everything?

Uh widely(and successfully) used across a variety of duel settings and scenarios for fast rushes. Ironically i see you specifically playing it all the time. What is up with you these days.

>gw still op
>poland shit in cws
>blitz dies to everything
>gw so strong we need a hard counter strat.

Whats next?

>Lb is perfectly fine!
>clovis did a great job as an admin
>Unleashed is a lovely guy.

edit: Levity aside I like the idea of a strat of this nature. But it needs some serious revision. I don't like how specific it's niche is. We need more viability from it before trying to implement it.

How about giving its air transports and naval transports more range + capacity, then it could have 2 viabilities

1. great for spotting marines/direct counter to gw and MoS

2. Making it a transportation strat/strong transportation ability to match the range of early expanding

It would give it a nice flavor and all in all it would be highly considered in competitive games and world games

Gw still pretty good if you huarck wall

Written by 4nic, 03.01.2019 at 14:05

That makes it a lowkey blitz/nc. We don't need another strat like that. Lb has also already opened up new possibilities for powerful expansion sniping since its strong and maintains standard ranges on its main units(tanks and inf). We need something different not more of the same. Sentry plane harassment isnt enough atm. Have you considered going down the offensive infantry front?

Written by Permamuted, 03.01.2019 at 15:21

Written by 4nic, 03.01.2019 at 14:05

That makes it a lowkey blitz/nc. We don't need another strat like that. Lb has also already opened up new possibilities for powerful expansion sniping since its strong and maintains standard ranges on its main units(tanks and inf). We need something different not more of the same. Sentry plane harassment isnt enough atm. Have you considered going down the offensive infantry front?

"offensive infantry" You mean lb?

Written by Permamuted, 03.01.2019 at 15:21

Written by 4nic, 03.01.2019 at 14:05

That makes it a lowkey blitz/nc. We don't need another strat like that. Lb has also already opened up new possibilities for powerful expansion sniping since its strong and maintains standard ranges on its main units(tanks and inf). We need something different not more of the same. Sentry plane harassment isnt enough atm. Have you considered going down the offensive infantry front?

sure it can be put in the same basket as blitz and nc why not
part of the high range strats

Written by Permamuted, 03.01.2019 at 15:21

Written by 4nic, 03.01.2019 at 14:05

That makes it a lowkey blitz/nc. We don't need another strat like that. Lb has also already opened up new possibilities for powerful expansion sniping since its strong and maintains standard ranges on its main units(tanks and inf). We need something different not more of the same. Sentry plane harassment isnt enough atm. Have you considered going down the offensive infantry front?

make a strat called super soldiers and give all inf +1 atk and -10 cost

boom new strat

Written by Witch-Doctor, 03.01.2019 at 15:49

"offensive infantry" You mean lb?

A fair point.

It's a creative strategy. But is it really necessary for the metagame?

Sounds good!! Bump