Content Update 2020 #5

On behalf of the Game Meta team I'm announcing a few updates which have just gone live:

Buildings Changes:

Fortifications now cost 1400 (previously was 700)
Recruitment Centers now cost 1000 (previously was 700)
Radar Arrays now cost 300 (previously was 700)
Anti-Aircraft Defenses now cost 1000 (previously was 700)

Strategy Changes:

Relentless Attack buff -- Bombers cost lowered by 10
Sky Menace buff -- Air Transports capacity increased by 1
Master of Stealth buff (or nerf? I'm not sure which you would consider this) -- Infantry defense lowered by 1, but cost also lowered by 10.

We're still working on new strategies to try, we'll keep you posted about that...

Dave | 07.10.2020

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Dave (Admin)
Benevolent Dictators

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+19

07.10.2020 - 05:05

Dave (Admin)

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smegma lover

Posts: 1361
From: Vatican

07.10.2020 - 05:08

smegma lover

First.. (second?)

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JUGERS2

Posts: 2866
From: Kosovo

07.10.2020 - 05:08

JUGERS2

Buffing ra by making it rely on bombers

Delete sm already

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Froyer
Paradox

Posts: 3273
From: France

07.10.2020 - 05:15

Froyer

Written by JUGERS2, 07.10.2020 at 05:08

Buffing ra by making it rely on bombers

Delete sm already

RA is retlentless attack, it's not called tank spam :/

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BLACKMETAL3199
D-Gen X

Posts: 1443
From: Turkey

07.10.2020 - 05:26

BLACKMETAL3199

Ok now i will reach 1800 elo with ra italy

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Froyer
Paradox

Posts: 3273
From: France

07.10.2020 - 05:33

Froyer

Written by BLACKMETAL3199, 07.10.2020 at 05:26

Ok now i will reach 1800 elo with ra italy

take the 50$ gogogogog

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Oleg
Prestige

Posts: 7316
From: Montenegro

07.10.2020 - 06:01

Oleg

Big MOS nerf.

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Yacer
Conquerors

Posts: 76
From: Jordan

07.10.2020 - 06:37

Yacer

Sad for Master of Stealth, why don't you reduce the cost of militia instead of infantry

VonHolstein
First Order

Posts: 16

07.10.2020 - 06:48

VonHolstein

1. For me buildings are useless in this form. Maybe I built 5 buildings throughout their lifetime
2. SM only for Ukr in 10k EU, so nobody really cares
3. Nerf for MoS, really? I don't know people who play MoS, if you want to play invisible then you choose GW.
#MosNeedsBigBuff

Lil Rain
Epic Clan

Posts: 134

07.10.2020 - 08:01

Lil Rain

Abraham
Mystics

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07.10.2020 - 08:05

Abraham

What about the +1 range for Iron Fist's militia?

b2spirit
Prestige

Posts: 196
From: Russia

07.10.2020 - 08:16

b2spirit

<3

tysm for RA buff it was always my fav Strat but performance pales in comparison to imp/blitz/nc/gc.
Also, why make forts that expensive?

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Froyer
Paradox

Posts: 3273
From: France

07.10.2020 - 08:18

Froyer

Written by Abraham, 07.10.2020 at 08:05

What about the +1 range for Iron Fist's militia?

will never happen, except if we make all strats broken af.

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Augustus Caesar
Epic Clan

Posts: 3414
From: Bosnia and Herzegovina

07.10.2020 - 09:37

Augustus Caesar

Holy shit a buff for SM!!!!! You lot must be after my heart or something

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JUGERS2

Posts: 2866
From: Kosovo

07.10.2020 - 09:57

JUGERS2

Written by VonHolstein, 07.10.2020 at 06:48

1. For me buildings are useless in this form. Maybe I built 5 buildings throughout their lifetime
2. SM only for Ukr in 10k EU, so nobody really cares
3. Nerf for MoS, really? I don't know people who play MoS, if you want to play invisible then you choose GW.
#MosNeedsBigBuff

I like your avatar it perfectly describes what i wanted to do after reading those changes

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j-e-s-u-s
The_Empire

Posts: 2213

07.10.2020 - 11:34

j-e-s-u-s

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that

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sirivann
First Order

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From: Chile

07.10.2020 - 11:48

sirivann

Written by j-e-s-u-s, 07.10.2020 at 11:34

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that

why nerf blitz lol

Xenomega
Illyria

Posts: 334
From: Fiji

07.10.2020 - 12:01

Xenomega

Fgts nerfed mos

Fatcheek
Red Army

Posts: 436
From: Egypt

07.10.2020 - 12:24

Fatcheek

Written by Dave, 07.10.2020 at 05:05

bruh, give RA more crit

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Leo
ENIGMA

Posts: 1475
From: Chad

07.10.2020 - 12:40

Leo

Love the SM change, about time we brought that strat back. Should see more play and some new cheaper expansions with this change.

Yet I cannot wrap my head about how the same reasoning for +1 capacity is the same for giving IF millis +1 range. But nah bro, being able to wall and switch milis between Nel and Belgium is gonna suddenly make IF the best strat in the game

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Daisy91
Ship of Theseus

Posts: 115
From: Hungary

07.10.2020 - 13:33

Daisy91

Make some more relevant updates and fixes, rather than changing the database for default unit stats, thx.

appreciate it

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PleaseMe
Blue-Dragons

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From: Germany

07.10.2020 - 13:55

PleaseMe

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Grim_Reaper
The_Empire

Posts: 9
From: USA

07.10.2020 - 14:08

Grim_Reaper

This seems to make MoS worse in my opinion i rather have the +1 def

PleaseMe
Blue-Dragons

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From: Germany

07.10.2020 - 14:10

PleaseMe

Written by Oleg, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

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PleaseMe
Blue-Dragons

Posts: 2549
From: Germany

07.10.2020 - 14:17

PleaseMe

Written by Abraham, 07.10.2020 at 08:05

What about the +1 range for Iron Fist's militia?

I don't think that's ever going to happen. It would make the strategy way too strong.

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Francis Forever
Djibouti Legion

Posts: 607
From: Zimbabwe

07.10.2020 - 15:17

Francis Forever

Love the sm buff, will definitely help me rush uk as spain

Not sure about the mos nerf though.

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Xenomega
Illyria

Posts: 334
From: Fiji

07.10.2020 - 16:59

Xenomega

Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 14:10

Written by Oleg, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

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Dave (Admin)
Benevolent Dictators

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From: USA

07.10.2020 - 17:07

Dave (Admin)

Written by j-e-s-u-s, 07.10.2020 at 11:34

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that

I didn't spend any time on this. It was all the work of the Game Meta team. I'm just the messenger.

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All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer,
but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
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Captain Rider

Posts: 172
From: USA

07.10.2020 - 17:43

Captain Rider

Thats an MOS Nerf

if ive ever seen one

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Oleg
Prestige

Posts: 7316
From: Montenegro

07.10.2020 - 18:28

Oleg

Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 14:10

Written by Oleg, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

Nerfing MOS inf def by -1 in favor of -10 price, is it really worth?

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Pancakes

Posts: 110
From: USA

07.10.2020 - 19:33

Pancakes

When blitz buff

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PleaseMe
Blue-Dragons

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From: Germany

07.10.2020 - 21:07

PleaseMe

Written by Oleg, 07.10.2020 at 18:28

Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 14:10

Written by Oleg, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

Nerfing MOS inf def by -1 in favor of -10 price, is it really worth?

Yes because MOS is not meant to be a super defensive strategy. So 7 defense isn't necessarily needed to fit the definition of the strategy. We had originally made changes to make the strategy more useful in Eu+ 3v3 games. Currently MOS is very strong in Eurasia and world games so there was no need to buff marines. But since we saw not many people playing in 3v3 we figured we could make infantry 50 cost which would enable it to be played in west and east more effectively in Europe. Since 60 cost is normally too expensive for most countries.

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Witch-Doctor (Mod)
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07.10.2020 - 23:39

Witch-Doctor (Mod)

Nice to see Dave is still interested in Atwar

U.S MARINES
U.N.S Courageous

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From: Ukraine

08.10.2020 - 00:53

U.S MARINES

Written by U.S MARINES, 08.10.2020 at 00:52

No I don't like the update no I hate update please
Stop your also killing 5,00,000 people in Africa :gunner:

j-e-s-u-s
The_Empire

Posts: 2213

08.10.2020 - 10:06

j-e-s-u-s

Written by Dave, 07.10.2020 at 17:07

Written by j-e-s-u-s, 07.10.2020 at 11:34

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that

I didn't spend any time on this. It was all the work of the Game Meta team. I'm just the messenger.

ah, then for anyone of this game meta team, please make more relevant changes! tnx.
and for you dave, the community would love to see more features added, we cant be stuck in 2014 forever

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Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

Alois
Blue-Dragons

Posts: 2641
From: USA

08.10.2020 - 10:51

Alois

Written by j-e-s-u-s, 08.10.2020 at 10:06

Written by Dave, 07.10.2020 at 17:07

Written by j-e-s-u-s, 07.10.2020 at 11:34

Hey dave, nice update! but i think you should focus on diff things, even if we speaking on the strategies, maybe nerf blitz? or you could have added featured or something like that

I didn't spend any time on this. It was all the work of the Game Meta team. I'm just the messenger.

ah, then for anyone of this game meta team, please make more relevant changes! tnx.
and for you dave, the community would love to see more features added, we cant be stuck in 2014 forever

https://atwar-game.com/team/

Eagle would be a good one to contact as he leads the area. Didnt know if you knew, figured I'd point it out.

Go tell birdman to stop playing game and work D

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Oleg
Prestige

Posts: 7316
From: Montenegro

08.10.2020 - 19:27

Oleg

Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 21:07

Written by Oleg, 07.10.2020 at 18:28

Written by PleaseMe, 07.10.2020 at 14:10

Written by Oleg, 07.10.2020 at 06:01

Big MOS nerf.

Can you explain how?

Nerfing MOS inf def by -1 in favor of -10 price, is it really worth?

Yes because MOS is not meant to be a super defensive strategy. So 7 defense isn't necessarily needed to fit the definition of the strategy. We had originally made changes to make the strategy more useful in Eu+ 3v3 games. Currently MOS is very strong in Eurasia and world games so there was no need to buff marines. But since we saw not many people playing in 3v3 we figured we could make infantry 50 cost which would enable it to be played in west and east more effectively in Europe. Since 60 cost is normally too expensive for most countries.

Maybe you are right, but -1 for -10 price is still not really worth if you ask me.

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Novelsky

Posts: 14

09.10.2020 - 06:40

Novelsky

I think you should have an interface update as well.

Sphinx
Illyria

Posts: 113

09.10.2020 - 21:08

Sphinx

Lmao mos change, does it make it weaker or not, someone sweaty tell me. i was a fucking monster with mos but dont actually wanna think about it in depth thanks

Sphinx
Illyria

Posts: 113

09.10.2020 - 21:25

Sphinx

Supporter team spun their hamster wheels together for this useless rework to make themselves feel important lol

Dave (Admin)
Benevolent Dictators

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09.10.2020 - 22:07

Dave (Admin)

Written by Sphinx, 09.10.2020 at 21:25

Supporter team spun their hamster wheels together for this useless rework to make themselves feel important lol

Supporter team has nothing to do with game development.

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Alois
Blue-Dragons

Posts: 2641
From: USA

11.10.2020 - 10:31

Alois

Written by Sphinx, 09.10.2020 at 21:25

Supporter team spun their hamster wheels together for this useless rework to make themselves feel important lol

We broke our wheel a few months ago

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Steve Aoki
ENIGMA

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From: Serbia

19.10.2020 - 17:49

Steve Aoki

If i end up taking enough drugs to come back to aw, i'll make you regret your decision to buff sm. Lets have some fun D

LukeTan
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20.10.2020 - 09:31

LukeTan

Written by Steve Aoki, 19.10.2020 at 17:49

If i end up taking enough drugs to come back to aw

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Permamuted
Illyria

Posts: 6176
From: Ireland

22.10.2020 - 16:17

Permamuted

Nice MoS nerf. This is weaker than the original incarnation we sought to buff. A 25% att nerf for a 16% cost boost? Why??? Restore the default infantry attack.

If you listen real closely you can hear the sound of Learster spinning in his atwar grave.

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Estus
Band of Brothers

Posts: 1140
From: Brazil

22.10.2020 - 17:37

Estus

Written by Permamuted, 22.10.2020 at 16:17

Nice MoS nerf. This is weaker than the original incarnation we sought to buff. A 25% att nerf for a 16% cost boost? Why??? Restore the default infantry attack.

You kidding, right? That's a straight up buff.

Permamuted
Illyria

Posts: 6176
From: Ireland

23.10.2020 - 15:50

Permamuted

Written by Estus, 22.10.2020 at 17:37

Written by Permamuted, 22.10.2020 at 16:17

Nice MoS nerf. This is weaker than the original incarnation we sought to buff. A 25% att nerf for a 16% cost boost? Why??? Restore the default infantry attack.

You kidding, right? That's a straight up buff.

How so. You've weakened the strats opening expansion capabilities and brought the stats/gameplay closer to the style of great combinator. Yes your marines are invisible but they lack the offensive kick of gc tanks. Similarly the infantry lack the defensive abilities of the gc infantry. The option to expand with naked infantry is gone. You wouldn't do that now unless youd no choice as it would be a very inefficient use of reins.

The original idea of the MoS changes was to bring the strat to smaller maps - allow it to better cope in close combat situations. Why would I ever use that strat now over GC? Weaker defense, offense and expansion contesting. Stealth has limited use when you're right beside your opponent.

The strat has been restored to it's previous lonely niche.

This isn't a big deal though. At least we now have an admin/implementor team that aren't afraid to tweak things around.

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